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Re: IP4 Space
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:24:37 -0500
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Chris Adams <cmadams () hiwaay net> wrote:
Once upon a time, Jeff McAdams <jeffm () iglou com> said:Both my previous and current employer, in switching from IPv4 to IPv6 will drop from 7 and 4 advertisements (fully aggregated) to 1. I don't anticipate either ever having needs larger than the single initial allocation they have or would get. Both are multi-homed.That brings a question to mind. As an ISP, with IPv4, end sites that are multihoming can justify a /24 from us (or another upstream) and announce it through multiple providers. With IPv6, are they supposed to get their block from ARIN directly if they are multihoming?
There are three ARIN policy proposals on the table which attempt to address that issue right now: https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2010_8.html 6.5.8.2. Criteria for initial assignment to Internet connected end-users b. Currently being IPv6 Multihomed or immediately becoming IPv6 Multihomed and using an assigned valid global AS number, or; https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2010_7.html 6.2.3.2 X-Small (/48) To qualify for a /48 allocation or assignment, an organization must: * Be Multihomed per section 2.7, and qualify for an ASN per section 5; or https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2010_4.html 6.5.1.2. Criteria for initial allocation to ISPs Organizations may justify an initial allocation for the purpose of assigning addresses to other organizations or customers that it will provide IPv6 Internet connectivity to, with an intent to provide global reachability for the allocation within 12 months, by meeting one of the following additional criteria: b. Currently being IPv6 Multihomed or immediately becoming IPv6 Multihomed and using an assigned valid global AS number, or; I'm personally partial to 2010-7 since it also makes TE filtering practical.
In other words, should I _never_ allow customers to announce smaller blocks of my IPv6 ARIN block?
In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, you should never allow customers to announce IPv6 cutouts from your block. Cutouts are hard to programmatically distinguish from traffic engineering and there are 16 bits of potential traffic engineering from the minimum size ISP block if you can't filter until /48. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Current thread:
- Re: IP4 Space, (continued)
- Re: IP4 Space isabel dias (Mar 23)
- Re: IP4 Space Nathan Ward (Mar 22)
- Re: IP4 Space Andy Davidson (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Tim Durack (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Jeff McAdams (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Chris Adams (Mar 05)
- RE: IP4 Space Thomas Magill (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 05)
- RE: IP4 Space Thomas Magill (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space William Herrin (Mar 05)