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Re: IP4 Space
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:35:27 -0500
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:08:50 EST, David Conrad said:
On Mar 5, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:Ah, but, that assumes that the need is located in a similar part of the network to the reclamation, or, that the point of reclamation can be sufficiently motivated to do so by the money offered by the point of need.Actually, no, not really. When you're dying of thirst, even muddy water can be mighty appealing.
Muddy water is a good way to catch anything from dysentery to Giardia to typhoid fever. You *really* want to avoid it if at all possible, or at least do your best to treat it. Anyhow, the problem is that the person dying of thirst will in most cases not be anywhere near where the muddy water is. Sure, my AS could do the renumbering and get back a /25 or /26 - but then what will we *do* with it? We're not about to go get just a /25 from an RIR, so it doesn't realistically slow down *OUR* requests, and we can't give it to anybody else easily. Our last big IP space grab was to deploy campus-wide wireless, which ended up needing a chunk of space. We ended up splitting the difference - wireless users get a globally routable dynamic-config IPv6 address, but a NAT-ed IPv4 address out of a /18 in 172.16.
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- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 04)
- Re: IP4 Space Mark Newton (Mar 04)
- Re: IP4 Space Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 04)
- RE: IP4 Space Thomas Magill (Mar 04)
- Re: IP4 Space David Conrad (Mar 04)
- Re: IP4 Space Mark Newton (Mar 04)
- Re: IP4 Space David Conrad (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space David Conrad (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 05)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 04)
- Re: IP4 Space Mark Newton (Mar 06)
- Re: IP4 Space Shon Elliott (Mar 06)
- Re: IP4 Space Seth Mattinen (Mar 06)
- Re: IP4 Space Mark Andrews (Mar 06)
- Re: IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Mar 06)
- Re: IP4 Space Andy Davidson (Mar 07)
- Re: IP4 Space Robert Brockway (Mar 08)
- Re: IP4 Space Tony Hoyle (Mar 08)
- Re: IP4 Space Joel Jaeggli (Mar 04)
- Re: IP4 Space Larry Sheldon (Mar 04)