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Re: Ratios & peering [was: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's Actions]


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 07:00:11 -0800


On Nov 30, 2010, at 4:46 AM, John Curran wrote:

On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:47 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
BTW: The attempt failed.  Dave @ Above got Exodus & Global Center to agree to pull a Cogent if GTEi pulled a Level 
3.  GTEi blinked, and the rest is history.

Patrick - 

Your summary is incorrect. To be perfectly clear on the history: In 
summer of 1997, GTEi did indeed have a dispute with Exodus regarding 
traffic levels on peering interconnects, and indicated that it would 
cease peering.  On 16 Sep 1998, the dispute was resolved when Exodus 
signed an agreement with GTEi which was covered by non-disclosure at
Exodus's request[1][2].

Well... Yes, Exodus signed an agreement under NDA and GTE got
their ounce of flesh from Exodus, but, Patrick is correct in that GTE
did not continue to extort GC and Above and got a much smaller
reward than they were initially seeking (pound of flesh).

The result of the NDA, however, was that from outside perceptions, it
all looked like GTEi blinked, which, was very good for the industry.
It would have been better if certain players on the Exodus side hadn't
been quite so spineless, but, I guess to satisfy Godwin's law one can
only say they were following the example of the French in early WWII.

Peering is a business relationship.  If your company can make more or spend less by peering with another company, 
you should do it.  If you do not consummate that relationship, you are hurting your business.  This should be the 
only reason to peer or not peer.

Correct, and indeed that was basic principle in operation during the 
GTEi/Exodus peering dispute.

Sort of. It was clearly in GTEi and Exodus interest to continue exchanging
traffic and obviously would have hurt both companies had actual
depeering occurred. The question is which company would have been
harmed the most and thus succumbed to settling the dispute.

Owen



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