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Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated?
From: Matthew Palmer <mpalmer () hezmatt org>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:11:40 +1100
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 05:48:13PM -0400, Randy Carpenter wrote:
Someone who Randy didn't attribute wrote:I think APNIC has a policy that defines the minimum IPv6 allocation based on your current IPv4 allocation/usage. This would fix the problem?It would be nice as a start, but does not really take into consideration future expansion needs. I would think that you could draw some parallels, though. Something like: v4 /16 ~ v6 /32 v4 /12 ~ v6 /28 v4 /8 ~ v6 /24 I know it we don't want to equate v4 and v6, but it may help as a guideline for the size of the customer base.
I don't think it's a particularly good metric, either, because it doesn't take into account the "conversion rate" of IPv4 to IPv6 addresses, which is wildly different in different networks. Fer instance, $JOB[-1] is a colo/hosting business, with a fair chunk of IPv4 allocated, and the standard IPv6 /32. I did the initial IPv6 address plan, and I'm pretty confident in saying that they'll *never* need any more than that /32 of IPv6, because their business model means that they pack their /64s relatively (hah!) densely (typically there's at least one /24 of IPv4 per /64 of IPv6). However, anyone doing network access is likely to be replacing an IPv4 /32 with an IPv6 /48, which results in a lot more address space usage. Direct conversion between IPv4 and IPv6 will either result in many places being starved of IPv6 (very bad, as the OP of this thread pointed out), or space will be massively overallocated (also, not real hot). - Matt
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated?, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Jack Bates (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Scott Reed (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Mark Smith (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Mark Smith (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Randy Carpenter (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Franck Martin (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Randy Carpenter (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Franck Martin (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Owen DeLong (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Franck Martin (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Matthew Palmer (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? John Curran (Oct 27)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? Jack Bates (Oct 26)
- Re: IPv6 Routing table will be bloated? JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (Oct 26)