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Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time
From: David Miller <dmiller () tiggee com>
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 08:47:29 -0400
As to what ARIN can 'do' about addresses that are unused/abandoned and later hijacked...
ARIN delegates Reverse DNS for every allocation that they make. Address blocks that are reported, investigated, and determined to be unused/abandoned could be delegated to special ARIN name servers that merely returned the following for any reverse DNS query:
z.y.x.w.in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN PTR do.not.accept.anything.from.this.abandoned.address.space
This is something that ARIN *could* easily do technically. Admittedly, this would require reporting and investigation that I am uncertain whether or not ARIN is empowered/funded to do. This would also require a process be put in place for removing allocations from the delegation to the unused/abandoned reverse DNS servers...
-DM On 10/1/2010 8:20 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
I sent an abuse complaint to Mr. Curran and the abuse helpdesk about a month or two ago. Took weeks to get an initial response from the helpdesk and i'm not certain they have actually done anything yet. Jeff On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Heath Jones<hj1980 () gmail com> wrote:Come one mate, there's no need to be just outright insulting people. Sure everyone disagrees on some things, but still... Lets play out this scenario then. What would you recommend ARIN actually do? I don't mean 'take a stance' or 'have an opinion', but rather what process should in your mind they be following? There are still other avenues. I mentioned in a previous email about IETF or a working group to come up with ideas and methods to combat spam and abuse. If you put as much time into one of them as you do fighting with the spammers directly and ARIN, then you might actually end up solving the problem at the core! I really don't want to drag this anti-spam stuff out. There's been a huge amount of posting these last few days over this (of which I am a culprit also), but I do think its valuable to hit this nail on the head. In other words, perhaps other people on this list are getting a bit fed up with it, so lets just sort it out and quickly..
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- ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Heath Jones (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Jeffrey Lyon (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time David Miller (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time bmanning (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time David Miller (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time William Herrin (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time David Miller (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Christopher Morrow (Oct 01)
- Verifying route origins and ownership (Was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time) Jeroen Massar (Oct 01)
- Re: Verifying route origins and ownership (Was: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time) Christopher Morrow (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Owen DeLong (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time bmanning (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 01)
- Re: ARIN Fraud Reporting Form ... Don't waste your time bmanning (Oct 01)