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Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...)
From: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:26:07 -0300
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: "Rubens Kuhl" <rubensk () gmail com>Isn't the real problem with global multicast: "How do we ultimately bill the broadcaster for all that traffic amplification that happened *inside* every other AS?" It seems like you'd have to do per-packet accounting at every router, and coordinate billing/reporting amongst all providers that saw those packets.Broadcast encrypted streams. Unicast the key distribution, allowing interested parties to count, bill, block, allow, litigate, agree...And that's the snap answer, yes. But the *load*, while admittedly lessened over unicast, falls *mostly* to the carriers, who cannot anymore bill for it, either to end users, providers, *or* as transit.
Why not ? One can set conditions for doing multicast replication prior to doing it, and they might include payment for services. We don`t have a global Multicast RP for everyone to use, each operator chooses if, how and when multicast streams are going into their RPs.
Will they not complain about having their equipment utilization go up with no recompense -- for something that is only of benefit to commercial customers of some other entity?
Unicast streaming has done it already, as Vladis pointed out... Rubens
Current thread:
- How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Jay Ashworth (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Rubens Kuhl (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Jay Ashworth (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Dan White (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Silas Moeckel (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Jay Ashworth (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Rubens Kuhl (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Simon Lockhart (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Jay Ashworth (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Simon Lockhart (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) John Levine (Apr 29)
- RE: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) George Bonser (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Jared Mauch (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Jeffrey S. Young (Apr 30)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Rubens Kuhl (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Octavio Alvarez (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Jay Ashworth (Apr 29)
- Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...) Chris Adams (Apr 30)