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Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:38:21 -0700
On Aug 3, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike () swm pp se>On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Owen DeLong wrote:Europe is a little odd in that way, especially DE and NO in that there seems to be this weird FUD running around claiming that static addresses are in some way more antithetical to privacy.Yes, I agree. I know people who choose provider based on the availability of static addresses, I know very few who avoid static address ISPs because of this fact. FUD indeed.You guys aren't *near* paranoid enough. :-) If the ISP a) Assigns dynamic addresses to customers, and b) changes those IPs on a relatively short scale (days) then c) outside parties *who are not the ISP or an LEO* will have a relatively harder time tying together two visits solely by the IP address.
ROFL... Yeah, right... Because the MAC suffix won't do anything.
While this isn't "privacy", per se, that "making harder" is at least somewhat useful to a client in reducing the odds that such non-ISP/LEO parties will be unable to tie their visits, assuming they've controlled the items they *can* control (cookies, flash cookies, etc).
Which is something, what, 1% of people probably even know how to do, let alone practice on a regular basis.
Imperfect security != no security, *as long as you know where the holes are*.
If people want this, they can use RFC-4193 to just about the same effect. The ISP modifying the prefix regularly simply doesn't do much. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers, (continued)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Owen DeLong (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers sthaug (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Owen DeLong (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers William Allen Simpson (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Bill Woodcock (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Matthew Palmer (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers sthaug (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Owen DeLong (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Owen DeLong (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Dave Hart (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Hannes Frederic Sowa (Aug 04)
- RE: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Leo Vegoda (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Jay Ashworth (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Matthew Moyle-Croft (Aug 03)
- Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers Scott Reed (Aug 02)