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Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 18:10:14 -0800
Carrier IQ does not qualify as a good use of a Trojan and comes about as close to your definition as I can think of. No, a Trojan is malware. Any software which operates without the knowledge or consent of the user to engage in operations the user would not reasonably expect is not being used for good, no matter how well intentioned. Owen On Dec 6, 2011, at 3:49 PM, andrew.wallace wrote:
A trojan can be used for good if in the right hands as a remote access tool for business use. Andrew ________________________________ From: Bryan Fields <Bryan () bryanfields net> To: "nanog () nanog org" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2011 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] On 12/6/2011 13:30, andrew.wallace wrote:It could be argued that Nmap is malware, and such software has already been called to be made illegal. If I was Cnet, I would stop distributing his software altogether. Link: http://nmap.org/book/legal-issues.htmlIf this is not trolling and you actually believe this, just wow..... Nmap is just a tool, and any tool can be misused by people for criminal acts. It's really no different than a gun in that regard. Both are incredibly useful things in the right hands, mere tools to further security. However in the wrong hands they can be used to commit crimes and break other peoples security. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice 727-214-2508 - Fax http://bryanfields.net
Current thread:
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!], (continued)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Malte von dem Hagen (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Jay Ashworth (Dec 07)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Bryan Fields (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] andrew.wallace (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] TR Shaw (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Michael Thomas (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Michael Painter (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Owen DeLong (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Owen DeLong (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 07)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Owen DeLong (Dec 07)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Michael Painter (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Owen DeLong (Dec 06)
- Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!] Jared Mauch (Dec 06)