Re: [fyodor () insecure org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]

[Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>]

On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:20 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 18:10:14 PST, Owen DeLong said:
>
> > No, a Trojan is malware. Any software which operates without the
> > knowledge or consent of the user to engage in operations the user would
> > not reasonably expect is not being used for good, no matter how well
> > intentioned.
>
> Strictly speaking, it's "without the knowledge or consent of the *owner*". Especially
> in corporate environments, "owner" != "user".

I would argue that the superset applies in a proper definition here.

Software which operates with the knowledge and consent of the owner, but, not the
knowledge or consent of the end-user is still, IMHO, nefarious at best.

Owen