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Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:18:50 -0500
On Dec 30, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Tei wrote:
I am not dumb, I know turning webpages into applications make webpages to fragile. But I am scared of javascripts. Javascript is just too dawmn usefull now, browsers too broken (mostly IE), and Javascript is like a superhero that fix all. The web is going to change in a few years, from a "request" "reply" interchange network, to something more like a computer "bus". I don't know how the "wires" will react to this.
I think the challenge here is going to be the unintended interactions of the subsystems involved. Take a look at the buffer bloat research and activities. I think getting a better symmetric speed ratio to the edge will help solve this problem. Just because you have 22:5 capability at home, or 50:10 (5:1) doesn't mean it will be used that way, but being closer to 2:1 will likely cause some significant improvements in performance. The internet as the transport over the top of the physical {fiber,copper,coax} is going to continue to grow. The folks at NTT just announced their 60th 10G across the pacific. With the continued growth here and 100G out there, handling the traffic will certainly become interesting. I think the dark buffers are going to be the biggest challenge we see. (I'm hoping for some good snow storms in the midwest/north east/NoVA area to put some good stresses on the network for a week or so this winter that can be measured/observed). - Jared
Current thread:
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!, (continued)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Ray Soucy (Dec 30)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Aiden Sullivan (Dec 30)
- RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Vitkovsky, Adam (Dec 30)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Jay Ashworth (Dec 30)
- RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Vadim Antonov (Dec 30)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 30)
- RE: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Robert Bonomi (Dec 30)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Jay Ashworth (Dec 30)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Joe Hamelin (Dec 30)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Tom Limoncelli (Dec 30)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Jared Mauch (Dec 30)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! David Barak (Dec 30)
- Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet! Darius Jahandarie (Dec 29)