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Re: quietly....
From: John Payne <john () sackheads org>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:30:23 -0500
On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:16 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 2 feb 2011, at 4:51, Dave Israel wrote:They were features dreamed up by academics, theoreticians, and purists, and opposed by operators.Contrary to popular belief, the IETF listens to operators and wants them to participate. Few do. For instance, I don't seem to remember your name from any IETF mailinglists. (I could be mistaken, though.)
From personal experience, the only reason die-hard IETF folk want operators to participate on IETF lists is so that they can tell them that they're wrong on IETF mailing lists as opposed to operator mailing lists.
Example: if you give administrators the option of putting a router address in a DHCP option, they will do so and some fraction of the time, this will be the wrong address and things don't work. If you let routers announce their presence, then it's virtually impossible that something goes wrong because routers know who they are. A clear win. Of course it does mean that people <gasp> have to learn something new when adopting IPv6.
Is anyone else reading this and the word "condescending" _not_ popping into their heads?
Current thread:
- Re: quietly...., (continued)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Nick Hilliard (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Randy Bush (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Tony Finch (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Smith (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Mohacsi Janos (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Randy Bush (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... John Payne (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Jeff Kell (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Ricky Beam (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jeff Kell (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 03)