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Re: quietly....
From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:33:52 +0900
Regardless of the stated opinion of the IETF and its participants, there is a culture in the IETF of resistance to operational opinion. The DHCPv6 vs RA debacle is a direct consequence of this and a good example of both the problem and the serious consequences which ensue when one side doesn't listen.
some ietf ops participants have been fighting this for years, not always successfully. but recently, the ops within the ietf community have been banding together a bit more. the win rate is not a lot higher, but at least we can share the pain. :) your characterization of the dhcpv6 issue as a debacle is understated. it's flat out st00pid and insane, and loses ipv6 non-trivial market share. the religious fools have moved to the mentality that v4 scarcity will force ipv6 deployment and they don't have to compromise their ivory tower zealotry. they are bringing nats of all flavors on themselves. this would be fine if the rest of us did not also get the dren. randy
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- Re: quietly...., (continued)
- Re: quietly.... Jay Ashworth (Feb 15)
- Re: quietly.... Lamar Owen (Feb 18)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 15)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 15)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Ricky Beam (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Lamar Owen (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Tony Finch (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Andrews (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Nick Hilliard (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Randy Bush (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Tony Finch (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Owen DeLong (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Mark Smith (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Mohacsi Janos (Feb 03)
- Re: quietly.... Jack Bates (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Randy Bush (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... John Payne (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 02)
- Re: quietly.... Jeff Kell (Feb 02)