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Re: Yahoo and IPv6
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 21:48:38 +0200
On 15 mei 2011, at 20:03, Jima wrote:
BitTorrent tends to be an evolving protocol, with lots of clients competing for mindshare; I'm not certain that limitation will remain.
Two years ago the Pirate Bay got on IPv6 in a way that was incompatible with existing clients that were IP version agnostic for lengthy reasons. (They decided you should have an IPv4 connection to the tracker (central server) to learn IPv4 peer addresses and an IPv6 connection to learn IPv6 peer addresses.)
Then their legal troubles got serious and I'm guessing they find it hard enough to move their IPv4 address(es?) around so they're IPv4- only again. They also want to move away from having trackers at all, and instead use a peer-to-peer based system (DHT) to find peers.
Until about a year ago I regulary saw 6to4 addresses showing up through the DHT but that has stopped. And rarely, if ever, would it be possible to connect to those addresses, anyway. Not sure what changed, maybe my software is too old, I'm on the wrong DHT or whatever.
Interestingly, BitTorrent can easily be modified to use the IETF NAT traversal techniques (STUN/TURN/ICE) and these are also largely compatible with NAT64. (Because unlike exiting NAT, NAT64 came about through the IETF process rather than organically, it probably has the tightest specifications of any type of NAT.) So you could run BitTorrent behind a NAT64 and not even exhaust the NAT64's port numbers. But for that, the BitTorrent application developers need to do some work, which they probably won't be able to do successfully until they can test against a fully RFC-conforming NAT64 translator.
Current thread:
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6, (continued)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Bjoern A. Zeeb (May 14)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Cameron Byrne (May 14)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Matthew Kaufman (May 14)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Jared Mauch (May 14)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Jima (May 14)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Matthew Kaufman (May 14)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Cameron Byrne (May 15)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Matthew Kaufman (May 15)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Cameron Byrne (May 15)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Jima (May 15)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum (May 15)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Owen DeLong (May 15)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Matthew Kaufman (May 15)
- RE: Yahoo and IPv6 George Bonser (May 15)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Owen DeLong (May 16)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Iljitsch van Beijnum (May 16)
- RE: Yahoo and IPv6 George Bonser (May 16)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Owen DeLong (May 16)
- RE: Yahoo and IPv6 Dan Wing (May 16)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Owen DeLong (May 16)
- Re: Yahoo and IPv6 Arturo Servin (May 16)