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Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space
From: Michael Dillon <wavetossed () googlemail com>
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 06:25:43 +0100
On 25 May 2011 04:22, Jeremy <jbaino () gmail com> wrote:
Please excuse my ignorance on this and note that I am not condoning the hijacking of IP address space. As long as necessary precautions are taken (route filters, tunnels, VRF's) shouldn't this be technically feasible without any negative ramifications?
And that is why the US military is unlikely to contact anyone at Rogers. Lots of other companies have hijacked space like this. As I recall, Reuters global networks began using 7/8 (along with a whole bunch of other low numbered /8's), back in the mid 90's and nobody has complained about that. This kind of thing is becoming more common as more companies exhaust the RFC 1918 space, and the DOD addresses are the prime target for this "borrowing" activity because most folks feel that the DOD isn't likely to run into any technical networking problems with this "borrowing". So we should CONDONE such borrowing and recommend a couple of /8s to use in North America. Perhaps one could be DOD for those operators that do not carry any DOD traffic and one could be that /8 from Softbank Japan, 126/8 if I recall it correctly. People who carry DOD traffic could borrow the APNIC block. This actually reduces the pressure on the IPv4 address supply without expensive carrier grade NAT services and makes the transition to IPv6 less turbulent. --Michael Dillon
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- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Jeremy (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Valdis . Kletnieks (May 24)
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- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Michael Dillon (May 24)
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- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Joe Hamelin (May 25)
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- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Matthew Kaufman (May 25)
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