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Re: IPv6 End User Fee
From: Eugen Leitl <eugen () leitl org>
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 21:41:05 +0200
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 10:31:02AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
IPv6 missed a great chance of doing away with all the central waterfall trickle-down space distribution.There was no need to fix what wasn't broken.
Let's say I want to plunk down a zero-administration node somewhere, as an end user. The most natural approach is where addresses are derived from constraints, and address collisions are identical to physical space collisions. No two nodes can occupy the same space. By the time you're beyond these 2^24 lat/long resolution IPv6 is probably on its last legs anyway, and there's way to do renumbering with more bits, at the very least.
Luckily, /64 looks like large enough to bypass that by offering address space sufficiently large while co-existable with legacy addressing and routing.Why on earth would you be messing around within /64? It should be easy enough to get a /48 (it certainly is now).
It's a lowest common denominator, at least as long the ISPs are playing by the rules. If end users conspire to use a new addressing scheme bypassing the ISP infrastructure as the crow flies, a freely modyfiable address field within your ISP-assigned address space is the best label you can hope for.
I hope eventually somebody will start tinkering with mesh radios which also have GPS onboard (as most smartphones and tablets do). 24 + 24 + 16 bits are just enough to represent a decent-resolution WGS84 position fix. Plus, GPS gives you a pretty accurate clock.That could be an interesting project. Limiting it to a /64 still doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I'm actually glad it's a /64. MAC space is a lot more cramped, and that information doesn't travel at all far.
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee William Pitcock (Aug 03)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Seth Mattinen (Aug 03)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Jimmy Hess (Aug 03)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (Aug 03)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Randy Bush (Aug 03)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Owen DeLong (Aug 03)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Eugen Leitl (Aug 04)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Jimmy Hess (Aug 04)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Eugen Leitl (Aug 04)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Owen DeLong (Aug 04)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Eugen Leitl (Aug 04)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Owen DeLong (Aug 04)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Eugen Leitl (Aug 05)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee John Levine (Aug 05)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Eugen Leitl (Aug 05)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee Randy Bush (Aug 03)
- Re: IPv6 End User Fee William Pitcock (Aug 03)