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Re: Evaluating Tier 1 Internet providers


From: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner () cluebyfour org>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:17:19 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, Eric Louie wrote:

Based on various conversation threads on Nanog I've come up with a few
criteria for evaluating Tier 1 providers.  I'm open to add other criteria -
what would you add to this list?  And how would I get a quantitative or
qualitative measure of it?

Define "Tier 1 provider". I ask this because it's something that many people don't know what it means, but assume that Tier 1 > Tier !=1.

routing stability

Routeviews.org can shed some light here.

BGP community offerings

If $provider has a page on www.peeringdb.com, they might publish a list of their BGP communities there. Other places to look would be the provider's whois/IRR entries, and on their respective websites, or the sales/marketing folks might be able to get this information for you.

congestion issues

There are various internet traffic report / weather report sites that can give you indirect insight into things like. By indirect, I mean that you might be able to infer things like congestion at a specific point based on what you see on those sites.

BGP Peering relationships

You can look at pages like www.peeringdb.com, and you will typically see if $provider is at an exchange, however the peering relationships that many providers have other providers (locations, speeds, etc) are confidential.

path diversity

You can ask $provider's sales and marketing folks, but there is no guarantee that you will get an answer (actual routes are considered confidential and proprietary information, despite the fact that a lot of providers' fiber ends up converging in a small handful of routes in some areas - i.e. many of them follow the same set of railroad tracks or cross a river at the same bridge, possibly even in the same conduit) or a correct answer (wave X might be re-groomed onto path Y without a whole lot of customer notification).

IPv6 table size

Sites like routeviews.org can give you some visibility here.

Seems like everyone offers 5 9's service, 45 ms coast-to-coast, 24x7
customer support, 100/1Gbps/10Gbps with various DIR/CIR and burst rates.
I'm shopping for new service and want to do better than choosing on
reputation.  (or, is reputation also a criteria?)

Absolutely reputation should be a factor. I would argue that Internet access is largely commoditized anymore (and has been for several years), so the real differentiators are cost and level of service.

jms


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