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Re: turning on comcast v6


From: Matthew Huff <mhuff () ox com>
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:27:15 -0500

You can request a fully working IPv6 implementation, but it's not going to stop a purchasing if it doesn't. If you are 
deciding between two vendors and one is better/cheaper and doesn't have IPv6 and you choose the other, it's likely you 
will be looking for another job. There is no strong justification for deploying IPv6 in a corporate enterprise 
currently. Corporate world is focused on the next quarter, not at a 10 year horizon.

We decided to  roll it out for a number of reasons. One, we had time this summer. Two, we figured it would highlight 
inherent issues already in our environment (it did, and we found a few doozies), and finally it was a good intellectual 
exercise. We have it running on all over our desktops, and most of our servers (some issues with license management 
software and other legacy software prevents us from deploying it on all servers)

If we had an orderly shutdown of our IPv6 environment, there would be zero impact to the business. In fact, due to 
complexity issues, it would arguably we would arguably be better off without it. Perhaps in a few years things will be 
different. My bet is that even in 5 years, corporate adoption will be very small, maybe as low as 10%.




On Dec 20, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:


In message <CAL9jLaa=qKuMLC7djtMru92f3tQcYp3ehR060nRcfKg-ho+bKA () mail gmail com>, Christopher Morrow writes:

Not all devices have working IPv6 stacks. OK, they're broken, complain
to the vendor and get them to fix their product or buy a working product
from a different vendor.


I don't know that this is a practical option... for say some systems I
know that don't do v6 properly or at all, and which have buying cycles
on the 10yr horizon, not 2yrs/etc.

And I hate to say it but people have been saying for over a decade.

      * request support IPv6 in the products you are purchasing.
      * test the IPv6 support.
      * report the bugs found so they can be fixed.

This situation was foreseen.  Too many people just left this for
later and later is here now and the fixes will come too late for
some.

BUT... so what? you can do v4/v6 on the same LAN, right? just only use
the v4 bits for those devices?

I don't think 'eh, toss out your crap, buy new crap' is the right
message to send. 'you can cohabitate, this isn't virginia' is though.

-chris
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka () isc org




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