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Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:23:58 -0800
In a message written on Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 07:11:56PM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
I believe they should be allowed to optionally provide L2 enabled services of various forms.
Could you expand on why you think this is necessary? I know you've given this some thought, and I'd like to understand. The way I see it, for $100 in equipment (2x$50 optics) anyone can light 1Gbps over the fiber. The only way the muni has significantly cheaper port costs than a provider with a switch and a port per customer is to do something like GPON which allows one port to service a number of customers, but obviously imposes a huge set of limitions (bandwiths, protocols you can run over it, etc). I also think the "ONT" adds unnecesary cost. They are used today primarily for a handoff test point, and to protect shared networks (like GPON) from a bad actor. With a dedicated fiber pair per customer I think they are unnecessary. I can see a future where the home gateway at the local big box has an SFP port (or even fixed 1000baseLX optics) and plugs directly into the fiber pair. No ONT cost, no ONT limitations, no need to power it (UPS battery replacement, etc). It's a value subtract, not a value add. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth Scott Brim (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth Owen DeLong (Jan 29)
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- Re: Muni network ownership and the Fourth Leo Bicknell (Jan 29)
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- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Miles Fidelman (Jan 29)
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- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Leo Bicknell (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Owen DeLong (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Leo Bicknell (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Owen DeLong (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Leo Bicknell (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Owen DeLong (Jan 29)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Jay Ashworth (Jan 30)
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