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Re: Time Warner Cable YouTube throttling
From: Grant Ridder <shortdudey123 () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 20:35:57 -0600
The 1st one gets slow at XO and the 2nd and 3rd get slow at Sprint. Now the interesting one with XO is that it is routed in a /30 that is assigned to Google by XO. network:Class-Name:network network:ID:NET-XO-NET-d1302a54 network:Auth-Area:209.48.0.0/15 network:Network-Name:XO-NET-d1302a54 network:Organization;I:GOOGLE INC. (328874-1) network:IP-Network:209.48.42.84/30 network:Admin-Contact;I:XCIA-ARIN network:Tech-Contact;I:XCIA-ARIN network:Created:20120917 network:Updated:20121018 network:Updated-By:ipadmin () eng xo com -Grant On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Min <qiu.min98 () gmail com> wrote:
3 traces all indicated the last hub are 80~100ms faster than the second last hub. Interesting. Min On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Derek Ivey <derek () derekivey com> wrote:I just got home and tested with quite a few 1080p videos. No issues overmyHurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel. I did notice frequent stops to buffer onmyFiOS IPv4 connection. I have a 50 Mbps down connection and don't evencomeclose to maxing it when watching Youtube videos. Here are a few traceroutes: [2.1-BETA0][root@pfsense]/root(1): traceroute r19---sn-p5qlsm7d.c.youtube.com traceroute to r19.sn-p5qlsm7d.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.184), 64 hopsmax,40 byte packets 1 L100.HRBGPA-VFTTP-12.verizon-gni.net (98.117.0.1) 1.222 ms 1.348 ms 0.834 ms 2 G10-0-8-112.HRBGPA-LCR-01.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.148) 2.839 ms 2.589 ms 2.443 ms 3 P12-0-0.HRBGPA-LCR-02.verizon-gni.net (130.81.27.185) 14.880 ms14.614ms 14.698 ms 4 so-12-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.254) 14.647 ms 14.696 ms 14.552 ms 5 0.xe-3-1-1.BR1.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.141) 15.027 ms 15.004 ms 15.064 ms 6 te9-2-0d0.cir1.ashburn-va.us.xo.net (206.111.0.201) 38.517 ms36.033ms 34.816 ms 7 216.156.8.189.ptr.us.xo.net (216.156.8.189) 31.958 ms 30.994 ms 29.194 ms 8 209.48.42.86 (209.48.42.86) 124.931 ms 126.117 ms 124.303 ms 9 208.117.251.184 (208.117.251.184) 26.483 ms 27.792 ms 27.974 ms [2.1-BETA0][root@pfsense]/root(2): traceroute r15---sn-p5qlsm76.c.youtube.com traceroute to r15.sn-p5qlsm76.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.148), 64 hopsmax,40 byte packets 1 L100.HRBGPA-VFTTP-12.verizon-gni.net (98.117.0.1) 1.077 ms 0.863 ms 0.968 ms 2 G10-0-8-112.HRBGPA-LCR-01.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.148) 2.429 ms 2.265 ms 2.456 ms 3 P12-0-0.HRBGPA-LCR-02.verizon-gni.net (130.81.27.185) 14.788 ms14.666ms 14.643 ms 4 so-12-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.254) 14.591 ms 14.479 ms 16.041 ms 5 0.xe-10-0-0.BR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.165) 15.007 ms 15.109 ms 14.975 ms 6 144.232.8.209 (144.232.8.209) 187.038 ms 115.363 ms 117.669 ms 7 sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.28.6) 116.263 ms sl-st31-ash-0-8-0-2.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.19) 116.491 ms sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.28.6) 116.934 ms 8 sl-googl10-584821-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.205.34) 122.521 ms122.780ms 121.535 ms 9 208.117.251.148 (208.117.251.148) 33.669 ms 37.652 ms 38.478 ms [2.1-BETA0][root@pfsense]/root(6): traceroute r10---sn-p5qlsm7l.c.youtube.com traceroute to r10.sn-p5qlsm7l.c.youtube.com (208.117.251.47), 64 hopsmax,40 byte packets 1 L100.HRBGPA-VFTTP-12.verizon-gni.net (98.117.0.1) 1.159 ms 0.831 ms 0.806 ms 2 G9-0-4-212.HRBGPA-LCR-02.verizon-gni.net (130.81.139.126) 2.396 ms 2.435 ms 2.167 ms 3 so-12-1-0-0.RES-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net (130.81.28.254) 14.497 ms 14.767 ms 14.695 ms 4 0.xe-11-0-0.BR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.169) 15.001 ms 15.074 ms 15.024 ms 5 144.232.8.209 (144.232.8.209) 118.582 ms 116.717 ms 113.669 ms 6 sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-3.sprintlink.net (144.232.3.169) 114.433 ms117.698ms sl-st31-ash-0-4-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.28.6) 115.981 ms 7 sl-googl10-584821-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.205.34) 123.912 ms124.402ms 125.384 ms 8 208.117.251.47 (208.117.251.47) 30.591 ms 30.676 ms 29.528 ms Derek On 3/6/2013 8:31 PM, Grant Ridder wrote:Can any one provide traceroutes to youtube to see if there is any correlation between last mile providers? -Grant On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Derek Ivey <derek () derekivey com <mailto:derek () derekivey com>> wrote: I don't think it's just Time Warner. Definitely looks like XO. IhaveVerizon FiOS and it was pretty bad for me as well (not sure if it still is since I'm not home right now). There's also atleast two threads intheVerizon FiOS section on Broadband Reports: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28027601-Horrible-youtube-speedshttp://www.dslreports.com/forum/r28071070-How-to-Reddit-YouTube-firewall-rule-with-MI424wrDerek On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Rick Coloccia <coloccia () geneseo edu <mailto:coloccia () geneseo edu>> wrote: > I'd like to help, too, I'm from a TWC business class site with 650 Mbps > bandwidth and still regularly poor performance with YouTube. > > -Rick > > Sent from my iPhone 4S > > On Mar 6, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com <mailto:morrowc.lists () gmail com>> > wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Randy Carpenter <rcarpen () network1 net <mailto:rcarpen () network1 net>> > wrote: > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Randy Carpenter > >>> <rcarpen () network1 net <mailto:rcarpen () network1 net>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> We have recently been having some serious speed issues with YouTube > >>>> on our home connections, which are all Time Warner Cable. > >>>> Some searching on forums and such revealed a work around: > >>>> > >>>> Block 206.111.0.0/16 <http://206.111.0.0/16> at the router. > >>> > >>> this was reported elsewhere... it seems odd, since that's XO space, > >>> not Google and not TWC space. Would you care to engage in some > >>> troubleshooting to help everyone out? :) > >> > >> I'll be happy to help troubleshoot in any way I can. > > > > excellent.. I'll arrange my ducks, let's chat offlist? > > > >
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