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Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty
From: Wayne E Bouchard <web () typo org>
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 16:45:19 -0700
It's a good point to consider however that omits the probabilty that Canada is doing exactly the same thing as the U.S. and thus this may free you from certain legalities but does not actually ensure privacy. The other fact of this is that we are well aware that the NSA's database is being accessed freely by (at the very least) England and Australia (I think that's who I read) I believe with reciprical agreements and I'd be shocked if Canada isn't in there too. What are the ramifications of that? Do we even know? Points to ponder... -Wayne On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 02:08:31PM -0700, Paul Ferguson wrote:
A Canadian ISP colleague of mine suggested that the NANOG constituency might be interested in this, given some recent 'revelations', so I forward it here for you perusal. "Preliminary analysis of more than 25,000 traceroutes reveals a phenomenon we call ?boomerang routing? whereby Canadian-to-Canadian internet transmissions are routinely routed through the United States. Canadian originated transmissions that travel to a Canadian destination via a U.S. switching centre or carrier are subject to U.S. law - including the USA Patriot Act and FISAA. As a result, these transmissions expose Canadians to potential U.S. surveillance activities ? a violation of Canadian network sovereignty." http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/media_law_prof_blog/2013/09/routing-internet-transmission-across-the-canada-us-border-and-us-surveillance-activities.html Cheers, - ferg -- Paul Ferguson Vice President, Threat Intelligence Internet Identity, Tacoma, Washington USA IID --> "Connect and Collaborate" --> www.internetidentity.com
--- Wayne Bouchard web () typo org Network Dude http://www.typo.org/~web/
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- Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Paul Ferguson (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Aaron Wendel (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Jorge Amodio (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Jim Popovitch (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty jim deleskie (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Wayne E Bouchard (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Harald Koch (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dave Crocker (Sep 09)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dobbins, Roland (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dobbins, Roland (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty <<"tei''>>> (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Randy Bush (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dobbins, Roland (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty bmanning (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Michael Thomas (Sep 08)
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- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Derek Andrew (Sep 08)
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- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Aaron Wendel (Sep 07)