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Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty
From: Dave Crocker <dhc2 () dcrocker net>
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 13:12:53 -0700
On 9/7/2013 5:33 PM, Harald Koch wrote:
On 7 September 2013 17:08, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () mykolab com> wrote:"Preliminary analysis of more than 25,000 traceroutes reveals a phenomenon we call ‘boomerang routing’ whereby Canadian-to-Canadian internet transmissions are routinely routed through the United States.I sincerely hope that nobody in Canada is surprised by this, since it was already an issue in 1994 (when I was at CA*net).
Much farther back than that.In 1985 I was working in Toronto and did a proposal for a national X.25 network. The pragmatics for reliability were simple at a national scale: Essentially all Canadian telecom links went through a few common sites across the country; if you wanted redundancy you had to have a second, independent path through the US.
Given that most Canadian population occupies a relatively thin band (close to the US border), this topological fragility was/is largely inherent.
d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
Current thread:
- Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Paul Ferguson (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Aaron Wendel (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Jorge Amodio (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Jim Popovitch (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty jim deleskie (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Wayne E Bouchard (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Harald Koch (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dave Crocker (Sep 09)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dobbins, Roland (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dobbins, Roland (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty <<"tei''>>> (Sep 07)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Randy Bush (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Dobbins, Roland (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty bmanning (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Michael Thomas (Sep 08)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Derek Andrew (Sep 08)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Jason Lixfeld (Sep 09)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Allen McKinley Kitchen (gmail) (Sep 09)
- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Jason Lixfeld (Sep 09)
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- Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty Aaron Wendel (Sep 07)