RE: iOS 7 update traffic

["Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf () dessus com>]

Why do you sell services to customers using iThings if you are incapable of supporting them?  Are you sure that it is 
not you yourself who have used to much "bait and switch" selling a service you are unable to provide?  What actions do 
you take to discourage iThings on your network?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com]
> Sent: Thursday, 19 September, 2013 16:29
> To: Ryan Harden; Jeroen van Aart
> Cc: <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic
>
> Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not
> affect my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and
> never look back. I'm asking..
>
> Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute their
> software without destroying most last mile connectivity?
>
> Who else has had traffic surges like this?
> And who else has a Nanog strike team coming in screaming buy more
> bandwidth? ;)
>
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Ryan Harden <hardenrm () uchicago edu>
> Date: 09/19/2013 3:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net>
> Cc: "<nanog () nanog org>" <nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic
>
>
>
> On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net> wrote:
>
> > On 09/19/2013 12:06 PM, Ryan Harden wrote:
> > > As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has
> happened with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released
> in 2007.
> > The difference is there are now a "couple" more million devices out
> there than there were in 2007. And in 2007 there was just the one phone,
> now you have tablets and what have you.
>
> The effect has been relatively the same regardless of how many iDevices
> there are. Network Operators have seen spikes during Apple OS releases
> since they started. The only leeway I'll give you is that the original
> iPhone only supported 802.11b. With .11n and someday .11ac, the ability
> for these devices to consume data at a faster rate is also increasing.
>
> > > This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool for
> Apple
> > Lame low ball remark, however I thought it was the opposite,
> Apple==coolness?
>
> This was in no way meant to be a lowball remark. But it doesn't take
> much searching to find people exclaiming how they have zero Apple
> devices or how they don't pay attention to Apple's "iJunk". I assumed
> (probably mistakenly) that the lack of knowing this is going to happen
> roughly 2-3 times a year was due to being 'too cool' to keep up with the
> stuff Apple puts out.
>
> > Regards,
> > Jeroen
> >
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