Re: iOS 7 update traffic

[Brandon Galbraith <brandon.galbraith () gmail com>]

1) Rate limit the software update download ("Us")

2) Have device OS download the update in the background, and be resilient
to failures with retries ("Manufacturer")

3) Don't present the update notification to the user until the update blob
is already cached on the device ("Manufacturer")

Only in a perfect world though.


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 5:49 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> wrote:

> On 9/19/13 3:29 PM, Warren Bailey wrote:
> > Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not
> affect my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and
> never look back. I'm asking..
> > Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute their
> software without destroying most last mile connectivity?
> > Who else has had traffic surges like this?
>
> Flash traffic occurs, sometimes people fly planes into things, sometimes
> nuclear reactors melt down, earthquakes or hurricanes occur  or cables
> are segmented due to underwater landslides. and what infrastructure that
> is left shifts abruptly from terrestrial to sattelite or gets droppped
> on the floor. the best you can ask for on an instantanious basis is
> graceful degredation under load.
>
> this happens to not be weather.so maybe you can do something about it.
> but ultimately a certain number of bytes have to be transfered and given
> the architecture, the flash was driven by the consumer and not by
> software automation, if we want the later to control it consumer choice
> has to be taken out of the loop, which may or may not be palatable.
>
> > And who else has a Nanog strike team coming in screaming buy more
> bandwidth? ;)
> > Sent from my Mobile Device.
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Ryan Harden <hardenrm () uchicago edu>
> > Date: 09/19/2013 3:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
> > To: Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net>
> > Cc: "<nanog () nanog org>" <nanog () nanog org>
> > Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net> wrote:
> >
> > > On 09/19/2013 12:06 PM, Ryan Harden wrote:
> > > > As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has
> happened with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released in
> 2007.
> > > The difference is there are now a "couple" more million devices out
> there than there were in 2007. And in 2007 there was just the one phone,
> now you have tablets and what have you.
> > The effect has been relatively the same regardless of how many iDevices
> there are. Network Operators have seen spikes during Apple OS releases
> since they started. The only leeway I'll give you is that the original
> iPhone only supported 802.11b. With .11n and someday .11ac, the ability for
> these devices to consume data at a faster rate is also increasing.
> > > > This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool for
> Apple
> > > Lame low ball remark, however I thought it was the opposite,
> Apple==coolness?
> > This was in no way meant to be a lowball remark. But it doesn't take
> much searching to find people exclaiming how they have zero Apple devices
> or how they don't pay attention to Apple's "iJunk". I assumed (probably
> mistakenly) that the lack of knowing this is going to happen roughly 2-3
> times a year was due to being 'too cool' to keep up with the stuff Apple
> puts out.
> > > Regards,
> > > Jeroen
> > >
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