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Re: iOS 7 update traffic


From: Ryan Harden <hardenrm () uchicago edu>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:06:38 +0000

To be honest, I don't see this as a problem at all. Use it as an excuse to upgrade your pipes, talk Akamai or CDN of 
choice into putting a cache on your network, or implement your own caching solution. As operators of the Internet we 
should be looking for ways to enable things like this, not be up in arms at Apple for releasing an update to their 
phone OS or making it available in a way that's inconvenient to our oversubscription policies.

As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has happened with every single Apple OS update since the 
iPhone was released in 2007. This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool for Apple, but paying 
attention to traffic trends and keeping abreast of how new software releases might affect your utilization is part of 
properly running a network.

/Ryan

Ryan Harden
Senior Network Engineer
University of Chicago - AS160
P: 773-834-5441




On Sep 19, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com> wrote:

I own a galaxy note 2..tmo ran an update that pushed to unique IMEI's sequentially. That way, you do not..

1. Murder your last mike packet network, which is your bandwidth bottleneck.

2. Murder your ggsn/whateverpacketnodeyouwant closer to the core.

3. Anger your paying customers who would like to use packet data successfully on an ios download day.

These people (Apple) represent themselves as smart guys, but their actions reflect otherwise. I bet this would be a 
larger deal to Nanog people if your Internet stopped working as the result of 100% Linux adoption. That is very close 
to what this is.. Tens of millions of people trying to update their 13 ios devices at the same time. Who owns a 
single ios device? A household could do 5-10gb worth of updates in a single day..

I personally do not own an ios device, and I see close to 3 gigs worth of update traffic at my house. These things 
are everywhere, and this problem will not stop.


Sent from my Mobile Device.


-------- Original message --------
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: 09/19/2013 11:16 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com>
Cc: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () mykolab com>,NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic


On Thu, 19 Sep 2013, Warren Bailey wrote:

Why does apple feel it is okay to send every mobile device an update on a single day?

They don't, these are users who actively goes into the software upgrade
menu and pressing "upgrade".

I believe the nagging won't start for quite some time.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike () swm pp se

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