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Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 13:38:32 -0400
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Timothy Morizot <tmorizot () gmail com> wrote:
On Apr 18, 2014 10:04 AM, "William Herrin" <bill () herrin us> wrote:That's correct: you don't understand. Until you do, just accept: there are more than a few folks who want to, intend to and will use NAT for IPv6. They will wait until NAT is available in their preferred products before making any significant deployment efforts.Actually, the few like you will hold off until they are behind the curve, then scramble to catch up. Good luck with that strategy!
You know, you zealots are playing this stupid. You've already won: no NAT in consumer devices means that when (if) IPv4 starts its decline, nat traversal will leave consumer-focused software. And sooner or later there will be a consumer app that business has to have. The only way you can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory is if IPv6 fails to launch. Look around you. IPv6 use on the Internet, actual use, is still barely in the single digits. If you let us get used to extending IPv4 with carrier NAT, markets and so on you lose everything. And if you think the math says that can't happen, you badly underestimate folks' ingenuity. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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