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Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post
From: "Bob Evans" <bob () FiberInternetCenter com>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 11:26:30 -0700
Everyone interested in how this plays out today, can read Bill Norton's Internet Peering book. While some say situations "didn't happen this way or it happened that way" doesn't really matter. What is clear and matters is the tactics/leverage backbones and networks use against each other in trading traffic are very real and explained well. These situations are one of the reasons I helped Coresite (AKA old CRGwest) build Any2 Peering. Amazon now has a kindle edition of the latest for just $10. Paper version is like $50-$100. The 2014 Internet Peering Playbook: Connecting to the Core of the Internet [Kindle Edition] William B. Norton (Author). Bob Evans CTO Fiber Internet Center Fiber International MTI Corporation
The "Fast Lane" perhaps starts as not counting traffic against metered byte caps, similar to what ATT did on their mobile network. If the content/service provider is willing to pay the provider, then the users may not pay overage fees or get nasty letters anymore when they exceed data caps. The second and more contentious part of it is using QoS to guarantee the content/service provider's traffic is delivered, at the expense of traffic from those who aren't paying. So if Netflix decides to pay and Amazon Prime doesn't, well Netflix will make it to your house and Prime might not. Right now everyone's traffic gets dropped equally. :) (Well more Netflix because there is a lot more of it). -Phil (all opinions are my personal opinions) On 4/27/14, 1:44 PM, "Barry Shein" <bzs () world std com> wrote:What are any of you talking about? Have you even bothered to read for example the wikipedia article on "monopoly" or are you so solipsistic that you just make up the entire universe in your head? Do you also pontificate on quantum physics and neurosurgery when the urge strikes you??? Sorry but this discussion is so, uneducated, usage of terms which are not as they are defined in the English or any other language, etc. <BOLD> But what do you think about the FCC's efforts in regard to "net neutrality"? </BOLD> Do you agree with CNBC's assessment that the internet has a "fast lane" and up until now FCC regulations prevented consumers and content providers from using it under the guise of "net neutrality". Do you believe there's anything at stake here for you beyond just nattering about your own personal and peculiar notion of what a "monopoly" is? Does that really matter to any of this? I almost believe that this entire flame war on the definition of monopoly is being fanned by sockpuppets whose job it is to make sure no one here talks about net neutrality in any effective or at least meaningful way. http://www.cnbc.com/id/101607254 F.C.C., in 'Net Neutrality' Turnaround, Plans to Allow Fast Lane The Federal Communications Commission will propose new rules that allow Internet service providers to offer a faster lane through which to send video and other content to consumers, as long as a content company is willing to pay for it, according to people briefed on the proposals. ... Would someone please define this "fast lane" for me? That would be a really good start. Preferably the managers of that fast lane because they surely must be on this list...no? P.S. CNBC is owned by Comcast (or more specifically NBC Universal, which is owned by Comcast.) -- -Barry Shein The World | bzs () TheWorld com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Dial-Up: US, PR, Canada Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo*
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 27)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jay Ashworth (Apr 29)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 29)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 29)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 26)
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Larry Sheldon (Apr 26)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Barry Shein (Apr 27)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Phil Bedard (Apr 27)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Bob Evans (Apr 27)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Barry Shein (Apr 27)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 27)
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 27)
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Larry Sheldon (Apr 27)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Miles Fidelman (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Barry Shein (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Miles Fidelman (Apr 28)
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Larry Sheldon (Apr 28)
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