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Re: Updated ARIN allocation information
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 05:10:51 -0800
On Jan 30, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:
In message <384BF687-AD8A-4919-9EAB-723A09854E0D () puck nether net>, Jared Mauch writes:On Jan 30, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:Or you could just accept that there needs to be more routing slots as the number of businesses on the net increases. I can see some interesting anti-cartel law suits happening if ISP's refuse to accept /28's from this block.i suspect it will be more sean doran style 'pay me for your slot'.A /8 slot costs as much as a /28 slot to hold process etc. A routing slot is a routing slot. The *only* reason this isn't a legal problems at the moment is people can still get /24s. The moment /24's aren't readily available and they are forced into using this range anyone filtering on /24 in this range is leaving themselves open to lawsuits.
On what basis? How do you have the right to force me to carry your route on my network? Especially in light of the recent strike-down of the net neutrality rules?
Now as this range is allocated for transition to IPv6 a defence for edge networks may be "we can reach all their services over IPv6" but that doesn't work for transit providers. Eyeball networks would need to ensure that all their customers had access to IPv6 and even that may not be enough.
Please point to the law which requires a transit provider to provide transit to every tiny corner of every internet. Please do so for all nations where this may be an issue. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information, (continued)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Mark Andrews (Jan 30)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Seth Mattinen (Jan 30)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Mark Andrews (Jan 30)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Justin M. Streiner (Jan 30)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Mark Andrews (Jan 30)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information John Curran (Jan 31)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Matt Palmer (Jan 31)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information William Herrin (Jan 31)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Owen DeLong (Jan 31)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Mark Andrews (Jan 31)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Owen DeLong (Jan 31)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Owen DeLong (Jan 30)
- Re: Updated ARIN allocation information Phil Rosenthal (Jan 30)
- Re: FW: Updated ARIN allocation information William Herrin (Jan 30)