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Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
From: Doug Barton <dougb () dougbarton us>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:49:31 -0700
On 07/14/2014 09:42 AM, George Herbert wrote:
On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:03 AM, Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net> wrote: In my experience the bandwidth is typically the lowest part of the cost equation. Why transcode on 1k nodes when you can do it once and distribute it at lower cost, including in electricity to run the host CPU. Centralized transcoding on dedicated hardware makes sense. - JaredExcept perhaps for the (current discussion) small rural ISP. The bandwidth scaling equations out in Ruralistan have never been the same as in large metros. You see this in wireless delivered performance as well. Netflix is probably not the straw that broke the camel's back, but it's The Thing Du Jour which one can point at and criticize, so it 's becoming a focal point.
Sure, but that's nothing more than the latest version of "I gambled on oversubscription as a business model, and lost." As you point out, and has been pointed out previously by several other posters, this is how the Internet works. Some new thing is always going to come along which uses more bandwidth than previous things, and if that new thing gets popular ...
In Brett's case he made the point explicitly that it's not even a matter of his rural customers not being able to get service if his prices increase to cover his actual costs; it's a situation where if he raises prices he will lose his customers to his competition. (Which in all likelihood have prices for the rural customers which are in some manner "subsidized" by other customers.)
So yeah, "Survival of the Fittest" sucks if you're not the fittest, but that's life sometimes.
Doug
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix, (continued)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Jay Ashworth (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 13)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Mark Andrews (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Jay Ashworth (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Baldur Norddahl (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Tei (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Dave Temkin (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Daniel Ankers (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Jared Mauch (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix George Herbert (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Doug Barton (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Dave Temkin (Jul 14)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Miles Fidelman (Jul 16)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Doug Barton (Jul 16)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix David Miller (Jul 16)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Owen DeLong (Jul 16)
- Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix Joly MacFie (Jul 16)