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Re: Carrier Grade NAT


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 09:13:27 +1000


In message <20140729225352.GO7836 () hezmatt org>, Matt Palmer writes:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 09:28:53AM +1200, Tony Wicks wrote:
2. IPv6 is nice (dual stack) but the internet without IPv4 is not a viable
thing, perhaps one day, but certainly not today (I really hate clueless
people who shout to the hills that IPv6 is the "solution" for today's
internet access)

Do you have IPv6 deployed and available to your entire customer base, so
that those who want to use it can do so?  To my way of thinking, CGNAT is
probably going to be the number one driver of IPv6 adoption amongst the
broad customer base, *as long as their ISP provides it*.

Add to that over half your traffic will switch to IPv6 as long as
the customer has a IPv6 capable CPE.  That's a lot less logging you
need to do from day 1.

3. 99.99% of customers don't notice they are transiting CGNAT, it just
works.

More precisely: you don't hear from 99.99% of customers, regardless of
whether or not they notice problems that are caused by CGNAT.  People put up
with some *really* bad stuff sometimes without mentioning it to their
service provider.

Like modems that introduce 2 second queuing delays the moment you
have a upstream transfer like a icloud backup.  Buffer @!#$!@#$!
bloat!

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Mark Andrews, ISC
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PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka () isc org


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