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Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion
From: Andrew Fried <andrew.fried () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 18:12:06 -0400
IPv6 will never become the defacto standard until the vast majority of users have access to IPv6 connectivity. Everything I have at the colo is dual stacked, but I can't reach my own systems via IPv6 because my business class Verizon Fios connection is IPv4 *only*. Yes, Comcast is in the process of rolling out IPv6, but my Comcast circuit in Washington DC is IPv4 only. And I'd suspect that everyone with Time Warner, AT&T, Cox, etc are all in the same boat. Whether the reason for the lack of IPv6 deployment is laziness or an intentional omission on the part of large ISPs to protect their income from leasing IPv4 addresses doesn't matter to the vast majority of the end users; they simply can't access IPv6 via IPv4 only networks, without using some kludgy, complicated tunneling protocols. Andy -- Andrew Fried andrew.fried () gmail com On 6/17/14, 5:48 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Jun 17, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Lee Howard <Lee () asgard org> wrote:On 6/17/14 4:20 PM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra () baylink com> wrote:Here's what the general public is hearing:But only while they still have IPv4 addresses: ~$ dig AAAA arstechnica.com +short ~$http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/with-the-americas-ru nning-out-of-ipv4-its-official-the-internet-is-full/Can't tech news sites *please* run dual stack while they're spouting end-of-IPv4 stories?<wishful thinking=on> I would love to see a few more properties do IPv6 by default, such as ARS, Twitter and a few others. After posting some links and being a log stalker last night the first 3 hits from non-bots were from users on IPv6 enabled networks. It does ring a bit hollow that these sites haven't gotten there when others (Google, Facebook) have already shown you can publish AAAA records with no adverse public impact. Making IPv6 available by default for users would be an excellent step. People like AT&T who control the 'attwifi' ssid could do NAT66 at their sites and provide similar service to the masses. With chains like Hilton, McDonalds, etc.. all having this available, it would push IPv6 very far almost immediately with no adverse impact compared to users IPv4 experience. - Jared
Current thread:
- Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Jay Ashworth (Jun 17)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Lee Howard (Jun 17)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Jared Mauch (Jun 17)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Jeroen Massar (Jun 17)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Andrew Fried (Jun 17)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Martin Geddes (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Niels Bakker (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Owen DeLong (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Seth Mos (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Owen DeLong (Jun 18)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Ricky Beam (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Justin M. Streiner (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Ricky Beam (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Jared Mauch (Jun 17)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Owen DeLong (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Brandon Ross (Jun 19)
- Re: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion Lee Howard (Jun 17)