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Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.)
From: TJ <trejrco () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 07:43:56 -0400
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Bob Evans <bob () fiberinternetcenter com>wrote:
Thus far, IPv6 has been the "Field of Dreams" .... those of us who have built it, we know they have not yet come (the IPv6 customers). That's all this discussion is really about is "when will they come". I know the core of the Internet will be IPv4 for many years. All one has to do is talk to a few customer to find out that they are in no hurry. It's a no-brainer, because , none of us charges a customer more than than lunch money for an IPv4 address.
While I will agree that it has taken longer than some of us thought / expected I don't believe you can say no-one is coming. My home (Comcast) & my phone (T-Mo) get native IPv6, automatically, no extra charge - no special request - no special equipment. Our "4g" hotspots are all dual-stack. We recently got a new Verizon (landline) circuit for a job-site - came with a /48 automatically. The carriers drive this part of the boat - and some of them are doing so quite nicely (finally). Not all, but some of the biggest have done the most work == more eyeballs. The content side is doing better as well; again - not all, but the big ones are good wins. The customers, the normal people that is, don't know or care. We know that. On the "enterprise side" there is of course the cost & burden of dealing with the "legacy" network that still, largely, works as they expect. And in the govt it is even worse, despite some "mandates" to the contrary. But that too will shift over time - and needn't hold up anyone else's plans. And when people who do care have IPv6 at home/on their phone they will start to push that into said enterprises ... like I am doing :). /TJ
Current thread:
- Re: misunderstanding scale, (continued)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Mark Tinka (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Mark Andrews (Mar 23)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 23)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Bryan Socha (Mar 23)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Tim Franklin (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Bob Evans (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) TJ (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Lee Howard (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Bob Evans (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Owen DeLong (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Cb B (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Chris Knipe (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Justin M. Streiner (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) William Herrin (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Justin M. Streiner (Mar 22)