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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3) (was: RIP Network Neutrality


From: arvindersingh () mail2tor com
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 20:12:45 +0100

Jason I think it is important to consider that you are operating your AS
7922 to serve a global Internet.

In US, there is not a lot of choke because all the big Internet property -
Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon - pay toll to reach Comcast Broadband
customer.  If they do not pay u, there is not a competitive provider to
pay.  The routes to Comcast from "peers" are very congested.  If u don't
pay Comcast, you get sent over throttled Tata link... how is that "open"
internet?

In my home country, the routes to Comcast are poor bc dominant provider,
AS 6453 Tata, is vendor Comcast refuses to upgrade so it can play games.

Thank u again for helping provide information, but pls try to keep it
accurate.

Regards-
Arvinder Singh

On 5/15/14, 12:43 PM, "Nick B" <nick () pelagiris org> wrote:


Yes, you've got "some of the largest Internet companies as customers².
Because you told them "if you don't pay us, we'll throttle you".  Then
you throttled them.  I'm sorry, not a winning argument.
Nick

That is categorically untrue, however nice a soundbite it may be. If you
or anyone else truly believes we are throttling someone then I encourage
you to file a formal complaint with the FCC. According to their Open
Internet rules that we are bound to through at least 2018 (IIRC) we may
not discriminate on traffic in that way, so there is a clear rule and a
clear process for complaints.

Jason





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