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Re: Peering and Network Cost


From: Jay Hanke <jayhanke () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 09:00:30 -0500

Getting networks to connect to an ix is Uber expensive in relation to the
overall costs. Specifically before critical mass is reached. Getting the
first X gig of traffic is a hard problem that takes money to fix.
On Apr 19, 2015 7:51 AM, "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

There is a revenue floor where it doesn't matter how much or how little
service is provided, simply having a customer period requires a certain
amount of revenue.

Route servers, IXP Manager, AS112, route collectors, DNS, etc. all cost
money.

Maintenance costs money. The organization itself costs money. Upgrades
cost money. Racks cost money. Power costs money.

I'm sure I've left some things out.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



----- Original Message -----

From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
To: nanog () nanog org
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 4:23:53 AM
Subject: Re: Peering and Network Cost

So why is IX peering so expensive?

Again if I look at my local IX (dix.dk) they have about 40 networks
connected. Each network pays minimum 5800 USD a year. That gives them a
budget of 240000+ USD a year.

But the only service is running an old layer 2 switch.

Why do these guys deserve to be paid that much for so little?

Recently we had a competitor show up in the form of Netnod. However the
pricing is almost exactly the same, although Netnod tries to deliver
slightly more service.

Seems to me that this an unsound market. The 40 dix particants should
donate 1000 USD once and get a new layer 2 switch. Why does that not
happen?

Does not look like it is a local phenomenon either. IX'es all over are way
more expensive than they should be.

Regards

Baldur




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