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RE: [BULK] Verizon exiting California


From: Matthew Black <Matthew.Black () csulb edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:57:09 +0000

I don't live in a new suburban community with modern utilities. Well, the 50 year-old water main on my street was 
replaced about 10 years ago. We haven't suffered major flooding like UCLA experienced last year. My house was built in 
1930. Much of that telco copper is pushing 70 years old or more. Some is above ground and some is underground. Until 
recently, the underground vault would flood whenever it rained. The b-box uses screw-type terminals, not even 66 or 
BIX. Thank you GTE.

matthew black
california state university, long beach


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Carey [mailto:carey () ar-ballbat org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 10:02 AM
To: Matthew Black
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: [BULK] Verizon exiting California


On Aug 3, 2015, at 10:09, Matthew Black <Matthew.Black () csulb edu> wrote:

I ran a few Google searches and came across a trove of complaints against Frontier. Seems they are far worse than 
GTE/Verizon. On the few occasions I have called for FIOS support, always reached someone knowledgeable and helpful. 
Not looking forward to the changeover, as the new owners have to pay off debts from their acquisition. That can only 
be accomplished through rate increases. I see a Verizon tech outside my kitchen window every two to three days as he 
replaces two nitrogen tanks keeping copper trunks pressurized against water intrusion.

Cutting expenses is another (well, and selling more too). Properly engineered/maintained cable should not require that 
level of constant attention. 


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