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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:58:05 -0800
On Feb 27, 2015, at 08:04 , Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote: I'd think they'd be better off with some jujitsu, along the lines of: "We've always practiced network neutrality, not like some of our competitors, this won't effect us at all and may enforce some good business practices on others”
I think they’d be pretty hard pressed to say this with a straight face. Even if they could, anyone who is paying attention would know better.
(As far as I can tell, Verizon has not played games with favoring their own content - for all intents and purposes, they operate FIOS as a common carrier - no funny throttling, no usage caps, etc.)
Verizon has been every bit as much involved in the let’s tax the big content providers for all we can games as any of the other eyeball providers.
I'm surprised they weren't a bit more vocal on the OTHER FCC decision of the day - preempting some state restrictions on municipal broadband builds - Verizon has been very active in pushing state laws to kill muni networks (even in places where they have no intention of building out).
They prefer to do this in ways the public is less likely to notice what they are doing. The last thing they want is a big public backlash against their backroom dealings with lawmakers on this matter. The fact that the president called them out on it publicly is pretty much game over for that tactic anyway. Owen
Miles Fidelman Scott Fisher wrote:I am not arguing that they have a valid complaint. I just think their method of doing so is a bit childish. It does get the point across, just not in the method I respect. Just my opinion though. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Rob McEwen <rob () invaluement com> wrote:Scott Fisher, I think Verizon's statement was brilliant, and entirely appropriate. Some people are going to have a hard time discovering that being in favor of Obama's version of "net neutrality"... will soon be just about as cool as having supported SOPA. btw - does anyone know if that thick book of regulations, you know... those hundreds of pages we weren't allowed to see before the vote... anyone know if that is available to the public now? If so, where? Rob McEwen On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Scott Fisher <littlefishguy () gmail com> wrote:Funny, but in my honest opinion, unprofessional. Poor PR. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon () cox net> wrote:http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-thursday-move-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet-- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
Current thread:
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality, (continued)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Adam Rothschild (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Stephen Satchell (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Lamar Owen (Feb 28)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality David Bass (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality William Herrin (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Scott Fisher (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Miles Fidelman (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Stephen R. Carter (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Rob McEwen (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Owen DeLong (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Stephen Satchell (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality David Miller (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Lamar Owen (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality Bruce H McIntosh (Feb 27)
- Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality James Downs (Feb 27)