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Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"?
From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 00:57:19 +0000
Mike, I agree that something like that needs to be done. Maybe I’ll do it. In the meantime, have you got an IPv6 lab set up? I’m guessing that with your /32 allocation in hand, you likely do. Have you run through HE.net’s excellent personal IPv6 certification program? Until you gain fluency in IPv6, you won’t understand any advice anyway. If you’re already reasonably skilled at IPv6 manipulations, then you should be able to start designing a practical IPv6 deployment scheme. The essential processes are (a) getting IPv6 into your provisioning system, so you keep track of your assignments, and (b) distributing /48 (or whatever) prefixes to customers across your core network. (b) depends entirely on your IGP (OSPF, iBGP, MPLS, etc) and the CPE at your customers. -mel
On Jul 14, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Mike <mike-nanog () tiedyenetworks com> wrote: On 07/14/2015 04:46 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote:This goes back a number of years. There was a product that literally was a cardboard box that contained everything one needed to get started on the Internet. Just add a modem and a computer, and you were on your way. No fuss, no "learning curve". I'm beginning to think that someone needs to create a similar product, but for IPv6 internet. The Internet service providers would provide the same sort of kit to get people started. Just add a CSU/DSU (like a cable modem) and a computer, and you are on your way. Also, I think we need a *real* book called "IPv6 for Dummies" (maybe even published by IDG Books) that walks through all the beginner stuff. There's beginner stuff that I've seen by using a search engine; a dead-tree book, though, may well be better for Joe Average. Just my pair-o-pennies(tm)I am a small provider with a 16 bit asn, a /20 and a /22 of ipv4 and a /32 of v6, but no clue yet how to get from where I am today to where we all should be. The flame wars and vitrol and rhetoric is too much noise for me to derive anything useful from. Someone needs to stand up and lead. I will happily follow. Whats really needed, is for you gods of ipv6, to write that 'ipv6 for ipv4 dummies', targeting service providers and telling us exactly what we need to do. No religious wars about subnet allocation sizes or dhcpv6 vs slaac or anything. Tell us how to get it onto our network, give us reasonable deployment scenarios that leverage our experience with IPv4 and tell us what we are going to tell our customers. Help us understand WHY nat is not a security model, and how to achieve the same benefits we have with nat now, in an ipv6 enabled world. Mike
Current thread:
- Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Stephen Satchell (Jul 14)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Brett Watson (Jul 14)
- Why we did Internet-in-a-box (was: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"?) Roland Perry (Jul 21)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Mike (Jul 14)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Mel Beckman (Jul 14)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Peter Kristolaitis (Jul 14)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Mark Andrews (Jul 15)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Marco Davids (Jul 15)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Matthew Kaufman (Jul 15)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Owen DeLong (Jul 15)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Tore Anderson (Jul 15)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Chuck Anderson (Jul 17)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Hugo Slabbert (Jul 17)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Brett Watson (Jul 14)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Lee Howard (Jul 15)
- Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"? Mark Andrews (Jul 15)