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Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 03:05:57 -0400

On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:07:22 -0000, Laszlo Hanyecz said:

university net nazis

Did you really just write that?


As far as "net nazi", I meant it in the same sense as a BOFH.  Someone who is
intentionally degrading a user's experience by using technical means to block
specifically targeted applications or behaviors.

Well, which is more BOFH-ish:

1) We insist that you connect in a way that allows us to identify and track
you for DMCA and other legal requirements that, quite frankly, we'd really
rather not have to do, but it's a cost of doing business.

2) We don't let you connect at all because we can't do so without exposing
ourselves to more legal liability than we want.

Besides which, that's a total red herring.

If you actually go back and *read*, I don't think anybody's "intentionally
degrading by blocking targeted applications" - except those who are refusing
to provide features to allow the applications to work on more network configs.
The vast majority of us would *prefer* that Android got fixed so it can ask for
more addresses and do more stuff. Most of us don't *care* if a user sucks up 13
adresses across 4 devices at the same time - IPv6 addresses are *cheap*.
On the other hand, covering your ass when a subpoena shows up and you realize
you don't have the data needed to point at the user they're *really* looking
for is incredibly expensive.

OK? Let me say that again:  We're all asking Google to quit being stubborn
and add a feature to Android so we can make the user experience *better*.

Now who you calling a BOFH?

On the other hand, if it becomes common and acceptable to use DHCPv6 to
provide a single address only

I encourage my competitor universities to design their networks that way. :)

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