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Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 03:05:57 -0400
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:07:22 -0000, Laszlo Hanyecz said:
university net nazisDid you really just write that?As far as "net nazi", I meant it in the same sense as a BOFH. Someone who is intentionally degrading a user's experience by using technical means to block specifically targeted applications or behaviors.
Well, which is more BOFH-ish: 1) We insist that you connect in a way that allows us to identify and track you for DMCA and other legal requirements that, quite frankly, we'd really rather not have to do, but it's a cost of doing business. 2) We don't let you connect at all because we can't do so without exposing ourselves to more legal liability than we want. Besides which, that's a total red herring. If you actually go back and *read*, I don't think anybody's "intentionally degrading by blocking targeted applications" - except those who are refusing to provide features to allow the applications to work on more network configs. The vast majority of us would *prefer* that Android got fixed so it can ask for more addresses and do more stuff. Most of us don't *care* if a user sucks up 13 adresses across 4 devices at the same time - IPv6 addresses are *cheap*. On the other hand, covering your ass when a subpoena shows up and you realize you don't have the data needed to point at the user they're *really* looking for is incredibly expensive. OK? Let me say that again: We're all asking Google to quit being stubborn and add a feature to Android so we can make the user experience *better*. Now who you calling a BOFH?
On the other hand, if it becomes common and acceptable to use DHCPv6 to provide a single address only
I encourage my competitor universities to design their networks that way. :)
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- RE: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6, (continued)
- RE: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Paul B. Henson (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Michael Thomas (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Jeff McAdams (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Todd Underwood (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Laszlo Hanyecz (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Mark Andrews (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Laszlo Hanyecz (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 James R Cutler (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Jim Popovitch (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Todd Underwood (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Chris Adams (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Baldur Norddahl (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 13)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Baldur Norddahl (Jun 13)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Robert McKay (Jun 12)