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Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6
From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 01:18:15 -0400
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 19:42:07 -0400, Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo () heliacal net> wrote:
It looks to me like Lorenzo wants the same thing as most everyone here,
It doesn't look like that from my chair. He doesn't want to implement DHCPv6 (and has REFUSED to do so for YEARS now) because he cannot find solutions for every possible permutation. In fact, he's hung up on **ONE** configuration: a network where DHCPv6 allows exactly one address to an endpoint.
Things like privacy extensions, multiple addresses and PD are great because they make it harder for people to do address based tracking, which is generally regarded as a desirable feature except by the people who want to do the tracking.
Addresses are *always* trackable. It's just a matter of who is in the best position to do it. My ISPs know what prefixes are assigned to me (both static and dynamic.) If I keep track of it, I know everything that's using an address in my networks -- by DHCP logs, and in theory, MAC table logs. (btw, I don't know of any solutions for MAC level logging.)
DHCPv6 is a crutch that allows operators to simply implement IPv6 with all the same hacks as IPv4 and continue to do address based access control, tracking, etc.
It allows them to have the level of accountability and control they desire and/or REQUIRE.
With DHCPv6, one doesn't have to pin a device to a single, solitary address. ISPs already handle that with PD (a single /64, a /60, or larger.) And there's nothing in the specs blocking a node from asking for multiple addresses. Again, because of the specter of one-address, Lorenzo REFUSED to support DHCPv6, IN. ANY. WAY.
Current thread:
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6, (continued)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Baldur Norddahl (Jun 13)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Robert McKay (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Karl Auer (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Lyndon Nerenberg (Jun 11)
- RE: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Paul B. Henson (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ca By (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ray Soucy (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Mark Andrews (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Matthew Petach (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ricky Beam (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 William Herrin (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Dave Taht (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Todd Underwood (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Dave Taht (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 William Herrin (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Michael Thomas (Jun 12)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Ca By (Jun 10)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Matthew Petach (Jun 11)
- Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6 Laszlo Hanyecz (Jun 11)