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Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks
From: Ca By <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 17:34:39 -0700
On Thursday, July 28, 2016, Donn Lasher via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:
On 7/28/16, 10:17 AM, "NANOG on behalf of J. Oquendo" < nanog-bounces () nanog org <javascript:;> on behalf of joquendo () e-fensive net <javascript:;>> wrote:While many are chanting: #NetworkLivesMatter, I have yet to see, read, or hear about any network provider being the first to set precedence by either de-peering, or blocking traffic from Cloudflare. There is a lot of keyboard posturing: "I am mad and I am not going to take it anymore" hooplah but no one is lifting a finger to do anything other than regurgitate "I am mad... This is criminal."(long discussion, was waiting for a place to jump in..) If we want to be accurate about it, Cloudflare doesn’t host the DDoS, they protect the website of seller of the product. We shouldn’t be de-peering Cloud Flare over sites they protect any more than we would de-peer GoDaddy over sites they host, some of which, no doubt, sell gray/black market/illegal items/services. If, on the other hand, you can find a specific network actually generating the volumes of DDoS, you should have a conversation about de-peering…. $0.02…
Agreed. Cloudflare is just the messenger The ddos is coming from your ssdp, dns, and ntp servers. Not Cloudflare. I see a lot of ddos traffic. It is always udp Comcast took a huge step in stemming the ssdp problem in their network, http://labs.comcast.com/preventing-ssdp-abuse Thanks Comcast! But they still host tens of thousands, perhaps more, open dns resolvers that attack us.
Current thread:
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks, (continued)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Seth Mattinen (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks McDonald Richards (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Seth Mattinen (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Stephen Satchell (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks J. Oquendo (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Donn Lasher via NANOG (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks TR Shaw (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Dovid Bender (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Ca By (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Owen DeLong (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Ca By (Jul 28)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Rich Kulawiec (Jul 29)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks J. Oquendo (Jul 29)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Hugo Slabbert (Jul 29)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 29)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks bzs (Jul 29)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Owen DeLong (Jul 30)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks bzs (Jul 30)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Baldur Norddahl (Jul 30)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Randy Bush (Jul 30)
- Re: Cloudflare, dirty networks and politricks Owen DeLong (Jul 30)