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Re: IP and Optical domains?
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:20:33 +0900
Mark Tinka wrote:
I'd like to hear your proposals on how Layer 3 protocols can be better designed to manage transport characteristics.
By not managing transport characteristics at all except that links are on or off (or, if you want to guarantee QoS, a little more than that). L3 protocols know links are off if L2 operators actively turn them off or if the protocols detect consecutive lack of L3 HELO generated frequently enough. L2 operators turns links off for maintenance and BER degradations need unscheduled maintenance.
That's L1, which is also required to exist.It's Layer 1 and Layer 2. Ethernet is running over those optics, albeit with no "traditional" optical equipment in between.
So, no disagreement, here.
So, you deny the original point of "The result of this is that the networks are heavily underutilized". OK.
We upgrade at 50% utilization. Others do it at 70% utilization. Others do it at 100% utilization. Heck, I know some that do it at 40% utilization.
I'm afraid "heavily" implies a lot less utilization. Masataka Ohta
Current thread:
- Re: IP and Optical domains?, (continued)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Glen Kent (Jun 18)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mark Tinka (Jun 20)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 20)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mark Tinka (Jun 20)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Glen Kent (Jun 18)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mark Tinka (Jun 20)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mikael Abrahamsson (Jun 20)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mark Tinka (Jun 20)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Masataka Ohta (Jun 20)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mark Tinka (Jun 20)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Masataka Ohta (Jun 22)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mark Tinka (Jun 22)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Masataka Ohta (Jun 22)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mark Tinka (Jun 22)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Masataka Ohta (Jun 22)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Mark Tinka (Jun 22)
- Re: IP and Optical domains? Masataka Ohta (Jun 22)