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Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:37:11 -0600 (CST)
Anyone that complains about double billing doesn't apparently know how the Internet works and should relegate themselves to writing articles for GigaOm. Oh.... ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Herrin" <bill () herrin us> To: "Dennis Burgess" <dmburgess () linktechs net> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:55:30 AM Subject: Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dennis Burgess <dmburgess () linktechs net> wrote:
Not wishing to get into a pissing war with who is right or wrong, but it sounds like google already pays or has an agreement with cogent for v4, as that's unaffected, cogent says google is simply not advertising v6 prefixes to them, so, how is that cogent's fault?
Hi Dennis, It's Cogent's fault because: double-billing. Google should not have to pay Cogent for a service which you have already paid Cogent to provide to you. Cogent's demand is unethical. They intentionally fail to deliver on the basic service expectation you pay them for and refuse to do so unless a third party to your contract also pays them. Google, by contrast, makes no demand that Cogent pay them even though you are not paying Google for service. They offer "open peering," a free interconnect via many neutral data centers. If you're not single-homed to Cogent and you have the balls for it, I would file an outage with Cogent and demand service credit until they resolve their IPv6 access problem with Google. And then refuse to pay until they connect with Google. If you are single-homed to Cogent, it's *very* important that you do something about that before you get burned in a way that matters. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>
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- RE: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Jon Lewis (Mar 10)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Christopher Morrow (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Owen DeLong (Mar 10)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun William Herrin (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Owen DeLong (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Chris Adams (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Owen DeLong (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun William Herrin (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Owen DeLong (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Stephen Frost (Mar 10)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Mike Hammett (Mar 10)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun William Herrin (Mar 10)
- RE: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Damien Burke (Mar 10)
- Re: AW: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Fredy Kuenzler (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Matthew D. Hardeman (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Mark Andrews (Mar 10)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Matthew D. Hardeman (Mar 10)
- RE: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Robert Jacobs (Mar 11)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Christopher Morrow (Mar 11)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Jay Hennigan (Mar 18)
- Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun Jay R. Ashworth (Mar 11)