RE: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

[Matthew Huff <mhuff () ox com>]

One caveat about Cogent even as a third or extra provider.

Because of disputes with eyeball networks, there is significant congestion at peering points with Cogent. We saw 
consistent 5-10% packet loss over many months traversing Cogent through to Charger, Cox and Verizon as well as others. 
For web access and even streaming video, with buffers, this might not be an issue. But for corporate use with VOIP 
and/or VPNs, it was a killer. We had to cancel our Cogent service and work with our remaining providers to 
de-preference Cogent completely.



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of William Herrin
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 10:47 AM
> To: James Milko <jmilko () gmail com>
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 9:14 AM, James Milko <jmilko () gmail com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:32 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
> wrote:
> > > At the very least, no one who is clueful about "The Internet" is
> > > single-homed to Cogent with any protocol.
> >
> > s/single-homed/dual-homed/
> >
> > It's not like losing Google/HE because your other transit dropped is
> > acceptable.
>
> Hi James,
>
> Cogent is effective at reducing cost as the third or subsequent provider
> in one's mix.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
>
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> William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com  bill () herrin us
> Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/>