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Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey


From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:43:36 +1000


In message <B796C128-AFDF-45A1-B5AF-C29BFF06E54B () arbor net>, Roland Dobbins wri
tes:

On 27 Sep 2016, at 6:58, Christopher Morrow wrote:

wouldn't something as simple as netflow/sflow/ipfix synthesized on the 
CPE and kept for ~30mins (just guessing) in a circular buffer be 'good 
enough' to present a pretty clear UI to the user?

+1 for this capability in CPE.

OTOH, it will be of no use whatsoever to the user.  Providing the user 
with access to anomalous traffic feeds won't help, either.

Users aren't going to call in some third-party service/support company, 
either.

Why not?  You call a washing machine mechanic when the washing
machine plays up.  This is not conceptually different. 

It call comes down to the network operator, one way or another.  There's 
no separation in the public mind of 'my network' from 'the Internet' 
that is analogous to the separation between 'the power company' and 'the 
electrical wiring in my house/apartment' (and even in that space, the 
conceptual separation often isn't present).

Actually I don't believe that.  They do know what machines they
have have connected to their home network.  Boxes don't magically
connect.  Every machine was explictly connected.

Mark

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