Re: Bandwidth Savings

[Marty Strong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

At the end of the day it’s a cost/benefit analysis, reading the OP’s message it’s clear that the IX or transit isn’t 
really the problem, but rather how much traffic traverses to the point of transit/IX. I think until we see some numbers 
both in terms of traffic and in terms of price to say Miami, Willemstad, etc. we can’t easily determine a good solution.

Regards,
Marty Strong
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> On 12 Jan 2017, at 13:38, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
>
> I remember there were a couple different owners down there, but Columbus swallowed them up, then C&W got Columbus 
> then Liberty got C&W. 
>
> Not knowing the international cable market, is this like AT&T, Comcast or Verizon (the largest US last mile 
> operators) being your only option? 
>
>
>
>
> ----- 
> Mike Hammett 
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>
> The Brothers WISP 
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke () gmail com> 
> To: "nanog () nanog org list" <nanog () nanog org> 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 3:23:58 PM 
> Subject: Re: Bandwidth Savings 
>
> The challenges are almost certainly economics related, at the lack of 
> competition and high costs for layer 1/2 transport from his Caribbean 
> island to Miami. Via whatever submarine cables exist that are controlled by 
> larger ILEC type entities/telcos. Or satellite (whether geostationary 
> transponder capacity or o3b). 
>
> Depending on what island we're talking about, the $$$$$/month for a single 
> 1GbE or 10GbE layer 2 transport service from $ISLAND to Miami will be very 
> high compared to what a network operator in the US 48 states is accustomed 
> to paying. 
>
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Richard Hicks <richard.hicks () gmail com> 
> wrote: 
>
> > I don't know the the Caribbean Internet Exchanges market. Are any worth 
> > peering at versus buying additional L2 bandwidth to Miami? 
> >
> > https://cw.ams-ix.net/ 
> > http://www.ocix.net/ocix/ 
> >
> > Rick 
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Keenan Singh <keenansingh () airlinktt net> 
> > wrote: 
> >
> > > Hi Guys 
> > >
> > > We are an ISP in the Caribbean, and are faced with extremely high 
> > Bandwidth 
> > > costs, compared to the US, we currently use Peer App for Caching however 
> > > with most services now moving to HTTPS the cache is proving to be less 
> > and 
> > > less effective. We are currently looking at any way we can save on 
> > > Bandwidth or to be more Efficient with the Bandwidth we currently have. 
> > We 
> > > do have a Layer 2 Circuit between the Island and Miami, I am seeing there 
> > > are WAN Accelerators where they would put a Server on either end and sort 
> > > of Compress and decompress the Traffic before it goes over the Layer 2, I 
> > > have never used this before, has any one here used anything like this, 
> > what 
> > > results would I be able to expect for ISP Traffic? 
> > >
> > > If not any ideas on Bandwidth Savings, or being more Efficient with want 
> > we 
> > > currently. 
> > >
> > > Many thanks for any Help 
> > >
> > > Keenan