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Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees
From: bzs () theworld com
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 14:09:58 -0400
On June 14, 2017 at 14:22 goemon () sasami anime net (Dan Hollis) wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jun 2017, bzs () theworld com wrote:Merely deciding not to patronize them may not be sufficient and that's why we make that sort of thing just outright illegal rather than hope market forces will suffice.Most spam is sent from compromised machines anyway, so there are already criminal violations involved in sending spam.
FWIW I believe the context was a vendor spamming NANOG attendees (see the Subject:) so not likely being done from compromised machines. That said, yes, a lot of spam is sent from compromised machines as you say. But criminal violations can be additive, even rising to things like RICO charges (a pattern of organized criminal behavior etc.) which can be both criminal and civil and added onto charges like the criminality of specific mechanisms (compromised systems etc.) It really depends on how interested one can get the legal machinery in the problem. Thus far that's hit or miss. I can't find any instance where RICO charges were used against a spam gang tho, at least on a quick search. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | bzs () TheWorld com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
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- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Rich Kulawiec (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Chuck Anderson (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mike Hammett (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees John Osmon (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mel Beckman (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Dan Hollis (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mel Beckman (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Niels Bakker (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees bzs (Jun 14)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Dan Hollis (Jun 14)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees bzs (Jun 15)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Rich Kulawiec (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mike Hammett (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Dan Hollis (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mike Hammett (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Joe Hamelin (Jun 19)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Jay Hennigan (Jun 20)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mark Andrews (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mel Beckman (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mark Andrews (Jun 13)
- Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees Mel Beckman (Jun 13)