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Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal
From: Tim Pozar <pozar () lns com>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 12:11:53 -0700
Alexa ran into this problem... https://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-unit-settles-privacy-lawsuit/ Tim On 3/28/17 11:45 AM, Mel Beckman wrote:
No ISPs have any right to market our customers browsing history, and currently that practice is illegal unless the customer opts in. In my opinion, only a fool wants to relieve ISPs of this restriction. The claim oft presented by people favoring this customer abuse is that the sold data is anonymous. But it's been well-established that very simple data aggregation techniques can develop signatures that reveal the identity of people in anonymized data. -mel beckmanOn Mar 28, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com> wrote: Last time I checked most European countries have stronger privacy protections than the US. Are they also idiots? Mr. Glass, would you care to respond? Regards, Roderick. ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> on behalf of Brett Glass <nanog () brettglass com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 1:13 AM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal All: It's worth noting that most of EFF's list consists of individuals and/or politically connected organizations, not actual ISPs. This is for good reason. EFF was founded with the intention of creating a civil rights organization but has morphed into a captive corporate lobbying shop for Google, to which several of its board members have close financial ties. EFF opposes the interests of hard working ISPs and routinely denigrates them and attempts to foster promotes hatred of them. It also promotes and lobbies for regulations which advantage Google and disadvantage ISPs -- including the so-called "broadband privacy" regulations, which heavily burden ISPs while exempting Google from all oversight. No knowledgeable network professional or ISP would support the current FCC rules. Both they AND the FCC's illegal Title II classification of ISPs must be rolled back, restoring the FTC's ability to apply uniform and apolitical privacy standards to all of the players in the Internet ecosystem. The first step is to support S.J. Res 34/H.J. Res 86, the Congressional resolution which would revoke the current FCC regulations that were written and paid for by Google and its lobbyists. So, DO contact your legislators... but do so in support of the resolutions that will repeal the regulations. It is vital to the future of the Internet. --Brett Glass, Owner and Founder, LARIAT.NET At 05:05 PM 3/26/2017, Peter Eckersley wrote:Dear network operators, I'm sure this is a controversial topic in the NANOG community, but EFF and a number of ISPs and networking companies are writing to Congress opposing the repeal of the FCC's broadband privacy rules, which require explicit opt-in consent before ISPs use or sell sensitive, non-anonymized data (including non-anonymized locations and browsing histories). If you or your employer would like to sign on to such a letter, please reply off-list by midday Monday with your name, and a one-sentence description of your affiliation and/or major career accomplishments.
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- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal, (continued)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mike Hammett (Mar 30)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Fletcher Kittredge (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mike Hammett (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mike Hammett (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Rich Kulawiec (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mike Hammett (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Ryan Stoner (Mar 29)
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- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Ryan Stoner (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Patrick W. Gilmore (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Tim Pozar (Mar 29)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Seth Mattinen (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal valdis . kletnieks (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Eric Tykwinski (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Seth Mattinen (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Seth Mattinen (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Hugo Slabbert (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mel Beckman (Mar 28)
- Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers opposed to FCC privacy repeal Mike Hammett (Mar 28)