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RE: ARIN RPKI TAL deployment issues


From: Michel Py <michel.py () tsisemi com>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 01:20:43 +0000

Jared,

Jared Mauch wrote :
Saying “nobody validates their prefixes” is patently false.  You may not.  I may not, but there are a number of 
networks that are and have advertised that they are.

I did validate mine, but in the ARIN region I'm part of the only 2% that did, that's close enough to "nobody" for me, 
in context compared to RIPE numbers.

Michel, It would be a shame if you created a ROA and it could not be validated in some non-english speaking corner of 
the world that
put your assets at risk due to this posture.  The community needs secure by default for all regions and the barriers 
for ARIN IP space
are a real and measured problem.  It’s time to end this disparity as right now not all TALs are equal.  They should 
be.

I agree, but it's not that simple.
The main issue I currently see with RPKI / ROA is not the ARIN TAL (altough I am directly affected) but the fact that 
nobody or almost nobody actually enforces RPKI. Most operators who are validating RPKI prefixes keep carrying them even 
when they are invalid, which makes the entire thing completely useless.
And yes I know, it's not that simple ;-)

And it may be shameless self-plugin, but I think we need to encourage experiments that actually try to enforce RPKI.

Michel.

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