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Re: Comcast storing WiFi passwords in cleartext?


From: James R Cutler <james.cutler () consultant com>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 08:38:26 -0400

On Apr 25, 2019, at 8:26 AM, K. Scott Helms <kscott.helms () gmail com> wrote:

People are missing the point here.  This is _not_ a Comcast "issue" this same data is available to every single cable 
operator in the US who deploys bundled modem/router/APs that follow the CableLabs standard.  They may or may not 
expose the data to their end customers, but it's stored in their systems and is often available to their support 
teams.

http://mibs.cablelabs.com/MIBs/wireless/CLAB-WIFI-MIB-2017-09-07.txt 
<http://mibs.cablelabs.com/MIBs/wireless/CLAB-WIFI-MIB-2017-09-07.txt>  

The same thing applies to most FTTH and xDSL deployments.  They use TR-069 to collect the data instead of SNMP but 
the object model is the same.  The WiFi MIB above is explicitly built to mimic TR-181 functionality.

Scott Helms



On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 5:48 PM Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org <mailto:rsk () gsp org>> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 03:13:33PM +0000, Benjamin Sisco wrote:
The bigger concern should be the cleartext portion of the subject.

Yes, and the availability of all this to anyone who hacks Comcast
customer support.

—rsk

I have yet to hear any discussion of the business value of access to WiFi network password, especially as compared to 
billing and identity data. Also, remote management of local networks by definition requires credentials stored off site 
from the customer. To the typical customer, loss of connectivity is much worse than a small chance of sharing the WiFi.

Narrowing the discussion back to Comcast, credentials for “guest” WiFi seem to be more used than purloined SNMP MIB 
data.

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