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Re: MAP-E


From: Lee Howard <lee.howard () retevia net>
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 13:19:54 -0400


On 8/9/19 1:32 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote:
  ❦  8 août 2019 16:18 -04, Lee Howard <lee.howard () retevia net>:

NAT64. IPv6-only to users. DNS resolver given in provisioning
information is a DNS64 server. When it does a lookup but there's no
AAAA, it invents one based on the A record (e.g., 2001:db8:64::<IPv4
address>). The IPv6 prefix in the invented AAAA is actually a NAT64
translator. Pro: no CPE support required, well understood. Con: No
support for IPv4-only stuff in the prem, breaks DNSSEC.
Is there a known deployment for a medium/large ISP?

Not a fixed/wireline ISP.

The "con" that consumers' game consoles, smart TVs, and IoT things won't work is a pretty big "con." I was working with a small ISP that was running out of IPv4 addresses, and they kept saying "NAT64." I warned them that while NAT64 would solve their runout problem, it would drive a lot of unhappy customer calls.

It would be interesting if someone offered a NAT64 service (maybe for a reduced price). Buyers could tell consumer electronics companies, "I can't use your device without IPv6." But qualifying the customer who would do that would be more expensive, I think, than just buying IPv4 addresses. Also but, would that be a Net Neutrality problem, charging less for a service that has arguably worse access to Amazon, Reddit, Twitter, etc.?

Lee


Thanks.


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