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Re: MAP-E


From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 17:23:22 +0200

Hi Jordi

My alternative to MAP-E is plain old NAT 444 dual stack. I am trying to
avoid the expense and operative nightmare of having to run a redundant NAT
server setup with thousands of users. MAP is the only alternative that
avoids a provider run NAT server.

Regards,

Baldur


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 3:38 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG <
nanog () nanog org> wrote:

Ask the vendor to support RFC8585.



Also, you can do it with OpenWRT.



I think 464XLAT is a better option and both of them are supported by
OpenWRT.



You can also use OpenSource (Jool) for the NAT64.



Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet







El 2/8/19 14:20, "NANOG en nombre de Baldur Norddahl" <
nanog-bounces () nanog org en nombre de baldur.norddahl () gmail com> escribió:



Hello



Are there any known public deployments of MAP-E? What about CPE routers
with support?



The pricing on IPv4 is now at USD 20/address so I am thinking we are
forced to go the CGN route going forward. Of all the options, MAP-E appears
to be the most elegant. Just add/remove some more headers on a packet and
route it as normal. No need to invest in anything as our core routers can
already do that. No worries about scale.



BUT - our current CPE has zero support. We are too small that they will
make this feature just for us, so I need to convince them there is going to
be a demand. Alternatively I need to find a different CPE vendor that has
MAP-E support, but are there any?



What is holding MAP-E back?  In my view MAP-E could be the end game for
IPv4. Customers get full IPv6 and enough of IPv4 to be somewhat compatible.
The ISP networks are not forced to do a lot of processing such as CGN
otherwise requires.



I read some posts from Japan where users are reporting a deployment of
MAP-E. Anyone know about that?



Regards,



Baldur



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